Changing cloth colours gives two different greens

Use this forum to chat with the makers of VP3DL, ask guestions, offer suggestions or even just tell them how much you like the game. Post VP3DL bug reports here. Please post any next gen suggestions in the Virtual Pool 3 Nextgen forum.

Moderators: 9balldotcom, vpeer

Post Reply
User avatar
9balldotcom
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 2047
Joined: Mon Oct 04, 2004 1:37 pm
Location: Kilmarnock(Scotland)
Contact:

Changing cloth colours gives two different greens

Post by 9balldotcom » Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:15 am

I think there seems to be some sort of anomally in VP4 where changing the cloth colour looks a little weird.

There has to be some sort of explanation for this.

As an example im talking about the standard snooker table colour of green and what happens of you change to another colour cloth and then more importantly if YOU DONT CHANGE IT BACK CORRECTLY*********

In order to test this theory I would like people to set up a quick play frame of snooker and go to hard times.
When you start the game your snooker table should be in standard green cloth,however what Im noticing is this.

If you then go into settings and misc that then allows you to change the cloth colour,if you change it to any other colour and look at the table,then once youve done that go into settings again and misc then change it back to green colour you should notice a more washed out look to the table cloth colour as well as the balls.
However if you then go back into settings and misc if you then change the cloth colur to DEFAULT instead of green you will then immediately notice that the fullness and richness of colur comes back into the picture.The green looks more vibrant and the reds look a fuller red.


Why should this be the case?
Here you see picture one which is the table with the table colour set to green in settings/misc
Image

And now in this picture table cloth colur has been set to default in settings/misc.Now you see theres a big difference in comparison,so now you have two different greens and my question is which one is the right colur? And its got nothing to do with calibrated and non calibrated monitors is it?
Image

Hanterp
Banger
Banger
Posts: 235
Joined: Fri Dec 26, 2008 4:55 pm

Re: Changing cloth colours gives two different greens

Post by Hanterp » Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:39 am

I think picture 1 is the one from after the patch and the second one from a not patched VP4
In the second patch the colors have been made darker if I remember correctly...
That makes the first one the correct one.

User avatar
sharkey9
VWSC 2007
Posts: 228
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:24 am
Location: Germany

Re: Changing cloth colours gives two different greens

Post by sharkey9 » Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:04 am

Everything is darker in pic #1, even Gollum in the upper right corner.
I'm made of metal
My circuits gleam
I am perpetual
I keep the country clean

User avatar
9balldotcom
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 2047
Joined: Mon Oct 04, 2004 1:37 pm
Location: Kilmarnock(Scotland)
Contact:

Re: Changing cloth colours gives two different greens

Post by 9balldotcom » Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:09 am

Lol both those pics were taken within 2 minutes of one another,its got nothing to do with patches.Its to do with how you choose the green colour for the table.

Fluke[FIN]
Hustler
Hustler
Posts: 170
Joined: Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:02 am
Location: Finland

Re: Changing cloth colours gives two different greens

Post by Fluke[FIN] » Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:29 am

sharkey9 wrote:Everything is darker in pic #1, even Gollum in the upper right corner.
No, the 2 different kinds of green table felts create an optical illusion which we discussed on gsa today. The background lightnings/contrast whatever are the same on those screenshots if you eliminate the green tables which fool your eye/brain. Here are the 2 screenshots side by side and table covered with black :

User avatar
sharkey9
VWSC 2007
Posts: 228
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:24 am
Location: Germany

Re: Changing cloth colours gives two different greens

Post by sharkey9 » Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:43 am

Holy Cow!
I'm made of metal
My circuits gleam
I am perpetual
I keep the country clean

User avatar
zwylle
Cuemaster
Cuemaster
Posts: 869
Joined: Mon Oct 04, 2004 10:47 am
Location: Germany

Re: Changing cloth colours gives two different greens

Post by zwylle » Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:35 pm

I don't see this as a bug but the option to change the color slightly.
If you don't like the default Snooker green, choose 'green' in table cloths and you may like that one better.

Would you rather elminate the option to choose?
______________
"If I can accomplish a minor task thousands have already completed, using readily available methods and tools, then I can do anything!" (Unknown)

User avatar
9balldotcom
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 2047
Joined: Mon Oct 04, 2004 1:37 pm
Location: Kilmarnock(Scotland)
Contact:

Re: Changing cloth colours gives two different greens

Post by 9balldotcom » Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:45 pm

What im saying is this has been the cause of people complaining about the colour differences in the first week of vp4 and it wasnt really made clear of how this issue came about at the time........now its clear k.

User avatar
zwylle
Cuemaster
Cuemaster
Posts: 869
Joined: Mon Oct 04, 2004 10:47 am
Location: Germany

Re: Changing cloth colours gives two different greens

Post by zwylle » Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:01 pm

There was a (slight) change of the default color with the first patch too though.
______________
"If I can accomplish a minor task thousands have already completed, using readily available methods and tools, then I can do anything!" (Unknown)

User avatar
AlinVille
V9BWC 2007,08
Posts: 652
Joined: Sat Jul 28, 2007 3:48 pm
Location: Bucharest

Re: Changing cloth colours gives two different greens

Post by AlinVille » Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:58 pm

zwylle wrote:I don't see this as a bug but the option to change the color slightly.
If you don't like the default Snooker green, choose 'green' in table cloths and you may like that one better.
This.

Basically the snooker table has an unique form of green as default, which I think looks great. The 'green' you select in options would override it with the green from the pool tables (which is a bit more towards blue). That's what I made of it... is this correct?

User avatar
zwylle
Cuemaster
Cuemaster
Posts: 869
Joined: Mon Oct 04, 2004 10:47 am
Location: Germany

Re: Changing cloth colours gives two different greens

Post by zwylle » Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:07 pm

Almost.
Just that not all pool tables use the same green either.
Hard Times default looks like the green in settings.
If you try for example Hawg Pen with both, default and green you'll see a difference too.
______________
"If I can accomplish a minor task thousands have already completed, using readily available methods and tools, then I can do anything!" (Unknown)

Post Reply