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Re: Annoying problem or bug in VP4 (+POSSIBLE SOLUTION)

Postby Fluke[FIN] » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:14 pm

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Re: Annoying problem or bug in VP4 (+POSSIBLE SOLUTION)

Postby Nam[BE] » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:16 pm

I don't see any lag when striking with space bar and track lines on. There's no backswing of the cue, the animation starts immediately and thus is fluid.
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Re: Annoying problem or bug in VP4 (+POSSIBLE SOLUTION)

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Re: Annoying problem or bug in VP4 (+POSSIBLE SOLUTION)

Postby thatdarndragon » Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:48 pm

I can confirm the lag still exists when tracking is turned on and shooting with space bar. It's most visible when shooting at full speed. At the instant you hit the spacebar theres a very brief lag, then cueball disappears then reappears about a foot down the table. This is also the point where the sound of the tip striking the cueball occurs.
Hope this helps. Really want to enjoy this.
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Re: Annoying problem or bug in VP4 (+POSSIBLE SOLUTION)

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Re: Annoying problem or bug in VP4 (+POSSIBLE SOLUTION)

Postby mojoicus » Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:54 am

Hi folks can confirm this works for me thx to Nick
Nick Clive Ok I think I've figured it out. Download 'setpoint 6.32' from the logitech website...u have to find your mouse model under support. Install it and on the first page there are 3 icons. Click the mouse pointer icon and turn off any pointer acceleration. Now go the third icon down the chess rook and enable game detection then untick 'keep mouse acceleration'. Worked for me.

Ill add i had to get the older 4.7 software because it wouldnt detect my marble trackball with the newer software


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Re: Annoying problem or bug in VP4 (+POSSIBLE SOLUTION)

Postby mart » Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:18 am

For me the VPSync solution only improves things as long as i don't use any side or screwback on the cue ball... if I do, then the lag problem is still there. I also notice it when the computer opponent play their shots.
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Re: Annoying problem or bug in VP4 (+POSSIBLE SOLUTION)

Postby papagaya » Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:29 am

Here is a video recorded and edited at high fps showing all the details. Hope it helps to determinate what is happening.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3w0gx4k5co6b9z9/VP4hfps.mp4

On the other hand, after making this video at high fps I can confirm that disabling vsync does not solve the problem completely. It really helps A LOT and makes the game totally playable, but the main problem is still there as it can be seen eventually. Of course as I said the gameplay is much better in comparison with vsync enabled.
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Re: Annoying problem or bug in VP4 (+POSSIBLE SOLUTION)

Postby Nam[BE] » Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:35 am

Yes, can't work for me either as my Logitech M215 mouse doesn't require any software and is not recognized by any Setpoint software I could manage to install. I also tried with a Microsoft mouse and the trackpad of my Laptop, same problem. I agree the problem is milder with VSync off but it's not gone.
I disabled acceleration too, i'll try a bit further on that path though.
Happy you're through, Mojo ;)
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Re: Annoying problem or bug in VP4 (+POSSIBLE SOLUTION)

Postby mart » Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:01 am

I've had an ordinary mouse for years...just a black thing with no labels on it... so I was about to say that I didn't think it was anything to do with the mouse being logitech as I have the same problem with my mouse which isn't a logitech.... I didn't actually know what make it was...but out of curiosity, I just looked underneath the mouse and it is indeed a logitech mouse.
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Re: Annoying problem or bug in VP4 (+POSSIBLE SOLUTION)

Postby vpeer » Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:07 am

Guys, thanks for continuing to try things, any bit of information may help. This issue has been perplexing.
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Re: Annoying problem or bug in VP4 (+POSSIBLE SOLUTION)

Postby vpeer » Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:24 am

Who sees this problem when running in desktop mode?
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Re: Annoying problem or bug in VP4 (+POSSIBLE SOLUTION)

Postby Nam[BE] » Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:45 am

I do. I only play desktop coz it's more fluid than the only resolution I can get in fullscreen.
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Re: Annoying problem or bug in VP4 (+POSSIBLE SOLUTION)

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Re: Annoying problem or bug in VP4 (+POSSIBLE SOLUTION)

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Re: Annoying problem or bug in VP4 (+POSSIBLE SOLUTION)

Postby mojoicus » Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:11 pm

Im afraid the logitech software doesnt seem to like my trackball???? so things havnt improved unless i can make the game detection settings apply which i cant at the moment,one min it worked now it doesnt im very confused now
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Re: Annoying problem or bug in VP4 (+POSSIBLE SOLUTION)

Postby Thing50 » Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:33 pm

yes it reverted back to the problem for me. I found totally exiting the setpoint then restarting it did something positive.
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Re: Annoying problem or bug in VP4 (+POSSIBLE SOLUTION)

Postby Fluke[FIN] » Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:46 pm

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Re: Annoying problem or bug in VP4 (+POSSIBLE SOLUTION)

Postby vpeer » Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:01 pm

Guys, look at this post and try the solution proposed:
http://www.facebook.com/VirtualPool4/posts/461504560548652
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Re: Annoying problem or bug in VP4 (+POSSIBLE SOLUTION)

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Re: Annoying problem or bug in VP4 (+POSSIBLE SOLUTION)

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Re: Annoying problem or bug in VP4 (+POSSIBLE SOLUTION)

Postby Fluke[FIN] » Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:22 pm

I didnt find setpoint 6.32 for my mouse: The mouse which Im using is Logitech M505. And when I searched for it on logitech site it seems the product is discontinued. I pressed "check for updated" on my current version of setpoint, it said I'm already using the most latest version for my mouse. Current version is:

Control Center version: 4.80.103
Driver version: 4.82.11

What I did try next was I shut the whole Logitech software down and checked from the task manager that there are no any setpoint.exe or similiar still running. Didnt have any effect on the shot lag bug.

This is quite a weird problem because some of us gets it fixed by updating mouse drivers, but lets remember the fact from the posts earlier: the CO also has the bug, which means it shouldnt be mouse related?

Edit: the CO has the shot lag bug even if you put the demo mode on the main menu so there shouldnt be any human player interference inte game
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Re: Annoying problem or bug in VP4 (+POSSIBLE SOLUTION)

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Re: Annoying problem or bug in VP4 (+POSSIBLE SOLUTION)

Postby papagaya » Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:37 pm

In desktop mode It also happens to me. And about the mouse, mine is gigabyte, and more people are experiencing the problem with generic ones and trackpads.
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Re: Annoying problem or bug in VP4 (+POSSIBLE SOLUTION)

Postby mojoicus » Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:39 pm

Certainly seems to be an in game problem if its happening to com opps but very weird its not there on replays ???
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